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STUART SCOTT - JONES LANG LASALLE INC (JLL) DOCUMENT # MAW621 STUART L. SCOTT is Chairman & Chief Executive Officer of Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc., the world's leading real estate services and investment management firm. As CEO, Mr. Scott also oversees the Board of Directors of Jones Lang LaSalle and is responsible for the development and expansion of the company's business segments, which include LaSalle Investment Management and the three regions of Owner and Occupier Services: the Americas, Europe and Asia Pacific. He is a member of the Jones Lang LaSalle Management Executive Committee and is an advisor to the firm's Investment Committee. Mr. Scott was honored by his North American peers with the distinguished 'Real Estate Executive of the Year' award in early 1999 during the Commercial Property World real estate conference in New York. Throughout his tenure, Mr. Scott served in numerous executive positions and is recognized for defining the character and client-focused tone of today's real estate services industry. Mr. Scott served LaSalle Partners as Chief Executive Officer, where he led the firm's rapid growth, its initial public offering in 1997, and its aggressive merger and acquisition approach from 1992 to 1999. Before his career began with Jones Lang LaSalle in 1973, Mr. Scott worked with Arthur Rubloff & Company and served on its Board of Directors. His career as an Attorney began with the Securities and Exchange Commission in 1966. Mr. Scott is a graduate of Hamilton College and Northwestern University School of Law. Sector: real estate TWST: Could we start with a history and overview of Jones Lang LaSalle? Mr. Scott: Our company is the result of a merger of two companies in early 1999. LaSalle Partners was a 30-plus-year-old American company with international operations, and Jones Lang Wootton was a 215-year-old British firm which became a multinational firm. The resulting merger produced Jones Lang LaSalle, the company that we're talking to you about today. TWST: How would you describe the business that you're in today after the combination? Mr. Scott: We are a fully integrated global real estate services and investment management company. By fully integrated, we mean that we use our research capabilities and our people in 100 markets on five continents to provide real estate services and advice to benefit two categories of clients: occupiers and users of real estate and investors of real estate. It is very efficient to use our people and our network to serve both kinds of clients. Despite the current global slowdown, we are a company with a commanding growth story and an opportunity to provide long-term earnings growth for our shareholders. TWST: Is there anybody else in the business that has that broad capability at this point? Mr. Scott: A number of our competitors see the wisdom of being fully integrated and describe such a future for themselves. We already have a tremendous global investment management capability with more than $23 billion in capital under management for clients. And we have a great ability to continue growing, particularly outside of the United States. TWST: What is the benefit of being on the ground worldwide? It always seems that real estate is kind of a local business. Mr. Scott: Real estate is a local business. However, the people who use real estate are increasingly global. Individuals and institutions that invest in real estate are increasingly interested in the best opportunities in the important commercial centers of the world. We have capital clients who want us to tell them where the best opportunities are without limitations on borders. We have multinational corporate clients with occupancy issues all over the world that need consistent advice from a reliable trusted advisor. So, although each market must have people on the ground with strong local knowledge, the service itself has to be consistent, delivered with the same quality and format everywhere in the world. That's why we put this company together in the way we did. TWST: Did the combination put all the pieces together you need or are there still some parts that you have to add to the portfolio? Mr. Scott: We have our people and operations in place. From time to time, we may need to add a place in order to serve our multinational clients. Although we may on occasion do a tiny acquisition, 90% of the time we will grow organically. TWST: Other than geography, do you have all the business parts that you need now? Mr. Scott: Yes, I believe we do. In my view, the two big growth targets for our company are the increasing interests of capital in global real estate investing and the increasing desire of our corporate clients to outsource their real estate portfolios. We offer clients globally the full spectrum of real estate services in our investment management offering and in our Corporate Solutions package, including project management, facilities management and tenant representation. TWST: What kind of impact will this economic slowdown that we're going through, seemingly both here and in Europe, have on you? Mr. Scott: This current global economic slowdown is impacting everyone in our industry and our clients as well. We have some clients delaying plans or even some canceling plans for real estate expansion. Other clients have excess space, so we help them find other users or sell it on their behalf. Every real estate market produces opportunities for us to help clients. Notwithstanding that though, this is a tough climate worldwide because the US slowdown has spread to Europe and is worsening the economic situation in Asia. As we reported recently, we are not expecting the level of activity that we had hoped for at the beginning of the year. In fact, in the face of the current global economy, we have adjusted our full year operating EPS target to at least match last year's adjusted earnings of $1.31 per share (after implementation of SAB 101). While we hope to achieve more, we believe matching last year's outstanding results will underscore the resilience and strength of the platform we have built to serve our clients. TWST: How does your business break down between US, Europe and Asia? Mr. Scott: The Americas and Europe each provide more than 40% of our revenues, and the remaining 15% comes from Asia Pacific, which includes Australia. TWST: So it's a good spread of business then? Mr. Scott: It's a great spread of business, and the fact that Asia is only 15% represents another growth opportunity. We believe that despite the current economic environment in Asia, it will be a tiger again and grow tremendously over the next decade. So I expect that in a few years our mix will equalize among the three regions. TWST: How sensitive is your business to changing interest rates? Mr. Scott: Changing interest rates impact our various businesses in different ways. When interest rates are low, returns available for real estate investments seem attractive by comparison. And I think that the lack of good returns available in the debt market and growing concerns about the equity market over the next five years cause many investors to think that they need a larger real estate component in their portfolio, which is good for our business. On the other hand, the fact that interest rates are low stems in large part from the Federal Reserve's efforts to stimulate the US economy and the very fact that it needs stimulating is a problem because our clients invest in their futures through expanding their real estate needs in a good economy. TWST: What kind of goals have you set for the company for the next two or three years? Mr. Scott: We think our company can grow its earnings per share over the long-term at an average rate of 15% per year. The current economic environment will prevent us from achieving that rate in 2001, but I will note that this year follows one in which we grew EPS by 32%. I wish we could achieve this 15% growth rate incrementally, smoothly, quarter-by- quarter and year-by-year. Although I am confident that Jones Lang LaSalle can grow at an average rate of 15%, it is not as even and predictable as Peter and I would like it to be. And he might want to comment on that. Mr. Roberts: One of our goals is to increase the predictability and smoothness of our revenue and net income streams over time. We will achieve that by expanding our geographic spread and our annuity-driven businesses, like investment management and corporate outsourcing. TWST: Are acquisitions going to play much of a role in the future? Mr. Roberts: No. Our strategy now is to build on our existing platform. To illustrate, with a new investment management client based in Europe, the US or Asia, we can expand our relationship to serve that client's investment needs globally. And the same dynamic would occur with multi- national corporate users of real estate. When we can leverage our global platform to provide consistent service for their occupancy needs around the world, our existing client base and targeted clients easily provide innate growth opportunities simply by expanding our service for them in different regions. TWST: What has been the reaction of the clients to you offering that broader array of services? Mr. Scott: It has been very positive. We have numerous corporate clients that have chosen to outsource their real estate to us, either globally or entirely within a region. And one of the reasons they give for choosing us is, first, the quality of the service itself, and second, because of our truly global network. No other company has the size across all the regions as our spread of revenue demonstrates. TWST: What's the risk here that investors should be aware of? What keeps you up at night? Mr. Scott: I would not like to think that we're going to get into a serious recession that might last more than a few more months. However, if it happens, it happens to everybody, and those are tough times that call for tough decisions in running a business. TWST: It seems to be dragging on longer than we all hoped. Mr. Scott: Yes. And that thought is probably the one that keeps me awake at night the most. TWST: You put two companies together, one US, one European. How did the combination go? Was it a smooth integration of these two businesses? Mr. Scott: I think the integration was smooth because we had a common vision and approach to the business. Both companies saw the need to provide a global platform to meet clients' needs. Each company saw the other as providing for reciprocal needs. When we put them together, we had a full global real estate services and investment management platform. The other primary reason was our similar approach to the business, which was, in each company, unique in its part of the world. By that I mean, neither one was a brokerage house with commissioned independent contractors. Both companies focused hard on building long- term relationships, compensated people on salary and bonus, and didn't have brokers. TWST: How about from a cultural point of view? Do they fit together fairly well? Mr. Scott: They did fit well. Both companies had a very strong client- first culture and both pursued long-term relationships. We have learned to pursue repeat business from clients who think we're great. One, it's more efficient and provides better margins to the firm because we spend the vast majority of our time executing business for people who like our service and the results we achieve on their behalf, and less time looking for new clients. Mr. Roberts: In addition, a critical aspect of the two cultures that were similar and, again, unique in the industry was a very strong sense of teamwork. The strategic focus on clients and teamwork is what has made this combination a success. TWST: What is your operating margin today and where would you like it to be? Mr. Roberts: In 2000, our adjusted EBITDA margin was 14%. Our target for 2001 is to improve that figure to 15% at least, even in this challenging environment. We plan to do that through cutting discretionary costs in every area of our business. Beyond this year, we believe that we can continue to improve that figure significantly. TWST: Can you improve it from that level over time? Mr. Roberts: Yes. Our goal is to continuously improve it. In fact, just to give you an example, our EBITDA margin on an adjusted basis the year before was about 13.8%. And so we saw improvement in 2000 and we're looking for improvement in 2001. Our goal is to continue to grow our margins in the years ahead. TWST: From a balance-sheet point of view, do you have the strength that you need to carry out your program? Mr. Roberts: We do. It's a combination of both our balance sheet and the cash flow-generating ability of our business. Right now, our debt to capitalization stands at less than 50%. Our goal is to continue to reduce that leverage factor. As we announced when we conducted our bond road show last summer, we plan to pay down debt on average $30 million a year over the next five years. In the first year of that process, we actually paid down over $70 million of debt. And so we have publicly announced this year that we would like to pay down at least $10 million additional, to give us a two-year average debt reduction of $40 million a year, significantly ahead of our $30 million a year goal. We think we have the financial flexibility and the cash flow-generating ability to achieve this plan. We have our business in place, so we don't need a lot of capital for acquisitions. We need capital for two things. One, to invest in our technology infrastructure, which enables the global service and consistent approach necessary to serve clients seamlessly around the world. The other is to co-invest with our investment clients in the various fund vehicles we establish for them around the globe. Again, both are consistent with our strategy to align our interests with our clients. TWST: So it's not really that capital-intensive. Mr. Roberts: That's correct. TWST: How do you feel about the value the market is currently putting on the company? Mr. Scott: I feel that Jones Lang LaSalle and the commercial real estate sector are undervalued. I guess we suffer from a number of things. We are real estate services companies, and real estate is still not regarded as a business line by most investors. Secondly, we are all small cap companies, which take us off the screen of a number of investors. So considering the year we had last year and the year we're striving for in this global slowdown, we don't believe the market is recognizing the value of our business. I believe that the only way to get the market to see who we are and where we're going is to achieve the goal we have set for ourselves to match 2000's performance during a dreadful business cycle. I think that if we do that we may get their attention, and we'll see the kind of response we deserve, which is a stock that's trading well above the current level. TWST: If you were sitting down with some potential longer-term investors, what two or three reasons would you give them to take a look at the company today? Mr. Scott: I would point out that increasingly we see the investment community embracing opportunistic international real estate investing as a sensible allocation for some of their investment portfolios. This view is spreading constantly, and real estate is becoming a very acceptable, conventional investment category. And as global real estate gains acceptance, very few companies have the good track record and size in investment management that we have. We have strong people on the ground and research capabilities around the world to provide full global coverage. Our clients can choose any market and get help from one advisor who is not married to a single region or continent. Our global real estate advisors are indifferent as to where those opportunities are. We are one of very few who can provide that coverage and track record, so there is huge opportunity there. The other big opportunity is that companies constantly seek ways to become more efficient, especially in economic slowdowns. Consequently, outsourcing of real estate by corporate clients will actually increase if this economy is tough over the next year or two. Again, Jones Lang LaSalle is one of the very few companies that can provide outsourcing services on a consistent basis anywhere in the world. And we see a lot of business coming down the pipeline. Remember, real estate is under everything. Everybody needs it. Real estate is the largest industry in the world. As successful as we are and as large as we have become, Jones Lang LaSalle, along with our competitors, has a tiny market share, so there is incredible room for growth. TWST: So it's still highly fragmented and subject to consolidation? Mr. Scott: Right. The opportunities here are tremendous. We are in a position to take advantage of them in a way that we think few, if any others, are. I see a great future for our company. TWST: Thank you. (TM) STUART L. SCOTT Chairman & CEO PETER ROBERTS Executive Vice President & CFO Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. 200 East Randolph Drive Chicago, IL 60601 (312) 782-5800 (312) 782-4339 FAX www.joneslanglasalle.com Each Executive who is the featured subject of a TWST Interview is offered the opportunity to include an Investors Brief or other highlight material to be provided and sponsored by and for the company. This Interview with Stuart L. Scott, Chairman & CEO, and Peter Roberts, Executive Vice President & CFO, Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc., is accompanied by an Investors Brief containing corporate information. Copyright 2001 The Wall Street Transcript Corporation All Rights Reserved The Wall Street Transcript (TWST) interviews are published verbatim, and TWST does not in any way endorse or guarantee the accuracy of any information or opinions expressed herein and all opinions are subject to change without notice. Nothing herein constitutes a solicitation to buy or sell any securities. TWST interviews with CEOs may include include "forward-looking statements", which are based on factors that involve risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied. TWST shall have no liability whatsoever for any trading losses arising out of use of this information. Copyright 1999 Wall Street Transcript Corporation. All Rights Reserved. |