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NICK CARTER – NATURAL RESOURCE PARTNERS LP (NRP)
CEO Interview - published 12/10/2007
NICK CARTER is the President and Chief Operating Officer of GP Natural Resource
Partners LLC. He has also served as President of the general partner of Western
Pocahontas Properties Limited Partnership and New Gauley Coal Corporation since
1990 and as President of the general partner of Great Northern Properties
Limited Partnership from 1992 to 1998. Western Pocahontas Properties Limited
Partnership, Great Northern Properties Limited Partnership and New Gauley Coal
Corporation are all affiliates of Natural Resource Partners LP. Prior to 1990,
Mr. Carter held various positions with MAPCO Coal Corporation and was engaged in
the private practice of law. He is Chairman of the National Council of Coal
Lessors, a past Chair of the West Virginia Chamber of Commerce and a Board
member of both the Kentucky Coal Association and the West Virginia Coal
Association.
SECTOR – METALS & MINING
TWST: What is Natural Resource Partners?
Mr. Carter: Natural Resource Partners is a master limited partnership, one of
three master limited partnerships engaged in the coal business. We have a rather
unique role in that we do not mine coal, don't produce any coal, and don't sell
any coal to any of the end users. We are an owner of coal reserves and lease
those reserves to the mining companies. They in turn pay us a royalty based upon
the gross selling price of the coal with a minimum fixed dollar amount for each
ton that's produced. In addition to that, we also own coal infrastructure. We
own a lot of surface property and are able to charge wheelage or throughput for
that and also have a large sand and gravel operation in Washington State that we
purchased 11 months ago. We are really in three separate businesses: coal
reserves, coal infrastructure and aggregates.
TWST: Give us an idea of those specific geographies.
Mr. Carter: We have coal in the three major coal producing regions. Our
principal region, based upon our history, is Appalachia. We are very unique in
that respect in that we own coal in every state in the Appalachian coal chain,
all the way from Alabama, north to Pennsylvania and every coal producing state
in between. The Appalachian coal is used both within the region and is also
exported, mainly to Europe, for use in both the steel making process as well as
for generating electricity. Additionally, we have coal in Indiana and Illinois
in the Illinois Basin. That's the coal basin that really is experiencing, and we
think will continue to experience over the next few years, a fairly rapid growth
because it's a high-sulfur coal. It contains thicker coal seams because it was
not mined in its normal course during the 1980s and 1990s because of the
requirements of the Clean Air Act that caused lower-sulfur coal to be mined.
Now, because of scrubbers being installed on power plants, there is a growing
demand for high-sulfur coal, because we now have the technological ability to
remove the sulfur from the plants and can mine and sell that quality of coal to
the utilities that can now burn it in compliance with the Clean Air Act. In the
West, we have coal in Montana on a very large surface mine in Colstrip, Montana.
Most of the coal that's mined there goes to a power plant that is on site. Our
aggregates operation is on Puget Sound. It is operated by a large Japanese
cement company. Our business plan there is the same as it is with regard to our
coal: we own the reserves, lease them to a mining company and they pay us a
royalty. Those aggregates can be shipped by barge around the Puget Sound to the
Greater Seattle-Tacoma area.
TWST: Is there a growth element at this point? Are you actively acquiring? Are
you bringing more land into production through these lease and other
partnerships?
Mr. Carter: Yes, we have completed 29 acquisitions in the five years that we've
been public. We just celebrated our fifth anniversary as a public company on
October 11 and have completed acquisitions totaling in excess of $1.1 billion.
We've doubled the size of the reserves that we owned at the time we went public
and we've added the aggregates as a growth platform. We've purchased four coal
preparation plants. Additionally we purchased some coal transportation
facilities, rail loadouts and coal handling facilities. Our infrastructure
business is rapidly growing. We hope to grow the aggregates business as well,
and our coal royalty business and coal reserves are continuing to grow.
TWST: What's the financial balance sheet and P&L?
Mr. Carter: Our capital structure is very sound. We have always felt that our
target was to get to a 50-50 debt-to-equity ratio. We've reached that only
momentarily from time to time as we've done acquisitions, but right now we're at
about a 39% debt-to-equity, so we have substantial room to grow. We have been
able to quickly and efficiently access the debt markets through private
placements, primarily to the insurance industry, and our senior notes have fixed
interest rates less than 6%. We are a little different from most MLPs in that we
are amortizing all of that debt and paying it off as we mine the reserves. We
have a very strong balance sheet, a $300 million credit facility and the ability
to increase the size of that to $450 million based on pre-approved credit
availabilities from the banks that currently participate in that facility. We've
increased distributions 17 straight quarters and have significantly grown our
income while maintaining a strong balance sheet. We reported third quarter
earnings with record revenue in excess of $56 million, which was up 36% from a
year ago.
TWST: What do you consider to be competition? How do you measure yourself?
Mr. Carter: We are the largest company in our space that buys and owns coal
properties and leases them to the mining companies. We have a relationship with
70 different mining companies through 189 leases. We're a very large company.
There is one other company that's in our space that is public. There are a
number of private companies that have historically, over a period of 100 years
or more, owned coal properties. We know all of those companies. We work with
them because they own properties adjacent to ours. We've been able to purchase
some of those companies and believe that in the future we will continue to be
able to purchase additional private companies and further consolidate our space
within the coal sector. We have a great management team that is on the ground
every day managing our relationship with our lessees and they are able to bring
deals to us. The industry is consolidating from a production standpoint and we
have been able to play a role in that consolidation also.
TWST: Introduce us to the top-level management team, yourself and two or three
of your key individuals, please.
Mr. Carter: We run operations from Huntington, West Virginia. My title is Chief
Operating Officer and I've been here at this company for 12 years prior to when
the company went public, so for a total now of 17 years. I am a lawyer who went
to work in the mining business 25 years ago. I spent eight years with the
company that is now Alliance Resources, a coal master limited partnership, but
then came over here to the private company that preceded NRP in 1990, and have
been here ever since. I've worked within the industry and serve on the Board of
the Kentucky Coal Association, West Virginia's Coal Association and am now in my
fourth year as Chairman of the National Council of Coal Lessors.
My right arm here is Kevin Wall, who is our Vice President and Chief Engineer.
He is a Virginia Tech grad and has been involved with this company for longer
than I've been here, I think, about 27 years. He is very knowledgeable of all of
our properties, and manages all of the people who really are the core of our
management team: the guys who we call regional managers who are in the field,
managing our relationship with the lessees, doing mine inspections, making sure
that the terms of the lease are being complied with, negotiating amendments to
the lease, and in many instances working on due diligence for acquisitions. We
also have three regional managers who run shops in London and Hazard, Kentucky
and in Logan, West Virginia where we manage some of our properties because of
the remote nature of those properties. In addition, we have Kevin Craig here,
who is our Vice President of Business Development. He is in charge of our
acquisition program. He and an analyst who works for him are really the only two
people who work full time on acquisitions. The rest of our due diligence team is
made up of the operations people, those regional managers who I talked about. In
Houston is Corby Robertson Jr., our Chairman and CEO, Kathy Hager, our Vice
President of Investor Relations, Dwight Dunlap, our Chief Financial Officer, and
Wyatt Hogan, our General Counsel. They all work in our Houston headquarters.
TWST: What historically has been the shareholder base with the company? Has that
base undergone any recent changes?
Mr. Carter: It has changed a lot over the last two years. When we first went
public, most of our owners were retail or individual owners who bought, and, in
large part, held our units. We've noticed a transition over the last couple of
years. Really, in 2006, we began to notice a larger and larger percentage of our
units were being held by institutions. Now, approximately 20% of our units are
held by institutions, up from approximately 5% when we went public. There were
some changes in the tax laws that allow them to now invest in MLPs. In addition,
approximately 34% is held by retail investors and approximately 46% is held by
insiders.
TWST: In your discussions with the investment community, are there any recurring
questions or misperceptions? Is the Natural Resource Partners story understood?
Mr. Carter: I think it's pretty well understood now. We have certainly made an
effort over the last five years to spend a lot of time with the investors,
especially the larger investors. I think there is a concern among a lot of our
investors with regard to some of the macro political issues relating to global
warming and some of those issues that impact the end users of our coal, the
electric utility industry, and what's going to happen on that aspect of it. As
far as the industry is concerned, I think most people in the larger cities,
where a lot of these institutions are headquartered, if they don't know a lot
about the coal industry, they are always surprised that 50% of the electricity
in the country is generated by coal-fired power plants. They are surprised at
the volume of tonnage that is mined in this country, which is over 1.1 billion
tons of coal mined every year. They are really surprised at what a global
commodity it is, with a lot of production in China, Colombia, South Africa and
Australia. The worldwide movement of those coal products is a surprise to a lot
of people. I think people are becoming more aware of all of the impact that the
coal industry has on their lives.
TWST: As investors track and access your performance, what are the key metrics
and events they should focus on? What should matter to the investor? What
matters to you?
Mr. Carter: To us, cash is king and we measure cash as distributable cash flow,
which is the metric that, we believe, should be most important to anyone who is
investing in a master limited partnership. That's a metric that determines
whether or not we have the ability to continue to increase distributions as we
have done historically. That's the first number I'll look at when I am looking
at our financial statements and trying to determine whether or not we're doing a
good job. One of the things that investors should focus on with regard to NRP
when looking at a potential investment is the tax attributes that they are going
to receive from having an investment in us. A partnership doesn't pay income
tax, but it passes through all of the tax liability and the tax attributes to
the unitholders. We are able to currently defer a substantial amount of our
taxable income through depletion. Additionally, coal royalty revenue, which
constitutes the major portion of our entire revenue stream, is taxed under the
federal tax code at the capital gains rate. That means that most of what revenue
is taxable to the unitholders is taxed at the lower, long-term capital gains
rate. When they look at how many dollars they get to keep in their pocket from
this investment at the end of the year, I think they'll determine that NRP is
very attractive. We believe distributable cash flow is the primary number that
investors should to be looking at and in our most recent earnings report, that
number was up 10% over the third quarter of 2006. We reached $34 million in
distributable cash flow for this last quarter.
TWST: What's the agenda or the priorities for the next 12 to 18 months? What
would make that time frame a success?
Mr. Carter: We need to keep doing what we've been doing! We need to always keep
our eye on the ball and actively manage the properties that we already have. We
need to generate a strong revenue stream from those properties first and
foremost. We will be in the field actively managing those, making sure that the
mine plans, which we have the right to approve, maximize the use of our
resource. Additionally, we also have the right to audit our lessees. We audit
the royalty payments to insure that we are paid the correct amount of royalty.
While doing that, we are also building a relationship with our lessees because
we found that most of our acquisition leads come from our current lessees.
Either they want to expand their business or they know somebody that is, and may
refer them to us. We are always in a relationship building mode with our
lessees. The second thing that we need to do as a growing company is to continue
to focus on acquisitions and we work everyday on acquisitions. We've had a very
strong deal flow and continue to have a strong deal flow and anticipate that the
coal industry consolidation that we think will occur will afford us the
opportunity to do a substantial number of deals over the next few years. We need
to be geared up and prepared to do that, for every aspect of our business.
TWST: What today compels investors to include NRP as part of their current
portfolios and longer-term investment strategies?
Mr. Carter: We have a five-year history with 18 increases in distributions and
17 straight increases in distributions. When we talk to investors and they want
to know what to expect from us in the future, we tell them to look at the past
and that's probably the best indication of what they can expect from us in the
future. What they'll see when they do that is that we are a company that's made
smart acquisitions and then been able to integrate those acquisitions in part
because of the way we do due diligence. When performing due diligence we have
the people who will be in charge of managing the property actively working on
the acquisition team. We've used our revenue streams from those acquisitions to
increase distributions. We have a very strong balance sheet to back up the
company and the distributions. Additionally, as I just mentioned, I think they
need to look at the after-tax returns that they are going to achieve. Those are
the key points that we try to stress when we are out meeting with investors.
TWST: Thank you. (DWA)
NICK CARTER
President & COO
Natural Resource Partners LP
601 Jefferson Street
Suite 3600
Houston, TX 77002
(713) 751-7507
www.nrplp.com
e-mail: info@nrplp.com
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